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Launch HN: Unlayer (YC W22) – Add email and document builders to your app (unlayer.com)
mandymoorefan 6 hours ago [-]
Marketing site feedback - Use of the primary color in the checkbox is confusing at a glance. I see a red like color and think "Oh they don't support s3"

https://unlayer.com/pricing

orliesaurus 9 hours ago [-]
Congrats on your late Launch HN. Everyone's going to ask this question but, in a world of AI/LLMs, why wouldn't I just build it myself in 10 min
adeelraza 9 hours ago [-]
Totally fair. You can build the first 10-minute demo with an LLM now.

The hard part is usually what comes after: editable state, templates, email-safe HTML, PDF/export pipelines, assets, permissions, custom blocks, previews, and all the rendering edge cases that show up once real users depend on it.

AI also makes structure more important, not less. That’s why we launched Unlayer Elements: instead of having an LLM generate a static blob of HTML, it can target structured components that map back into an editable email, web page or document.

So I'd use AI to prototype it. I'd use Unlayer when that content layer becomes production infrastructure you don't want to maintain yourself.

jvwww 34 minutes ago [-]
Really? You couldn't write this message yourself and had to ask an LLM. At least make it less obvious.
all2 22 minutes ago [-]
If you spend enough time with an LLM and aren't paying attention, you'll pick up on its mannerisms. I did this awhile ago (the "its not this, its that" thing) and someone here called me on it. After that callout, I've tried to be more aware of how much of that stuff leaches into my head and out into text.
jvwww 7 minutes ago [-]
While that may be true, in this instance the whole thing is 100% AI generated and this is not someone who has just adopted the mannerisms of AI.

For instance, the usage of "Totally fair" and "The hard part", the usage of colons, which humans would use far less frequently, using the rule of threes (editable email, web page or document), etc.

Anyway, it's just lazy. This is someone trying to sell their product. They should be able to speak about it without using the exact response from an AI

greenhat76 9 hours ago [-]
I see this question a lot. Not associated with OP but most companies don't want to maintain a bunch of vibed up apps they don't understand.

I work outside of SV in the southeast and most businesses know AI is being used for products they use but they want experts in that field behind that.

adeelraza 8 hours ago [-]
totally agree!
leftnode 7 hours ago [-]
Not the OP, nor do I have any relationship to them, but I've had to build or maintain plenty of these in my time and sure, an LLM can knock out a basic one easily, but there are so many edge cases that need to be accounted for that it gets complex quickly.

Congrats on the launch - this looks like a genuinely useful tool. I look forward to checking it out.

adeelraza 5 hours ago [-]
Exactly. You realize that after going through the whole process.
themanmaran 38 minutes ago [-]
FYI we've built this internally and it was a pain, so I was excited to check out what you've built to see if it was a good fit for us.

But your landing page + video was just slop city. Removes 100% of credibility for me.

I know the advice is launch early and often, but honestly I would just point people to the github until you have something better.

dbbk 2 hours ago [-]
Vibe coded website that looks like it was one-shotted in 5 minutes. Doesn't even work on mobile, the copy wraps off the screen. How can we take you seriously?
m4rkuskk 57 minutes ago [-]
I had to close the page after 5 seconds, seeing the AI slop.
edc88 6 hours ago [-]
Congrats on the launch! Elements seems really useful and practical, what's the response been from builders so far?
adeelraza 6 hours ago [-]
We’re seeing really good momentum with our open source projects. React email editor and elements.
clickety_clack 5 hours ago [-]
If this can fully replace something like postmark plus do documents it could be very interesting. I might try it out in a year or so if it’s still around.
adeelraza 5 hours ago [-]
We will be around. Have been for 5 years :)
0xnyn 6 hours ago [-]
Was ready to try this until I saw the launch video. It's pure AI slop.

If that's the first impression you're giving, you're underselling what looks like a legitimately useful product :(

adeelraza 6 hours ago [-]
Fair critique on the video :') We’re working on a studio-recorded version, but didn’t want to delay the launch, so we hacked this together as the script/placeholder for now. But this is our launch video, completely, 100% recorded in blood and flesh of a human: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HsDtNkdMpM
mchusma 6 hours ago [-]
My 2 cents, all these high level videos kind of suck, even the professional ones, when they don’t show the product. Even videos I produce for this purpose! I don’t think this is that bad. I’ve seen worse.
0xnyn 6 hours ago [-]
haha, fair enough 03:42 does the product justice :)
iAMkenough 9 hours ago [-]
As a content creator, this intrigued me until I saw the AI-generated overview video front and center on the homepage. The subtext communicates that the product was designed for fake people standing in front of large fake touchscreens dragging fake elements around.
adeelraza 8 hours ago [-]
Fair critique on the video :') We’re working on a studio-recorded version, but didn’t want to delay the launch, so we hacked this together as the script/placeholder for now. The demo is completely, 100% recorded in blood and flesh of a human: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HsDtNkdMpM
iAMkenough 8 hours ago [-]
hell yeah that’s what I was looking for
cyberax 8 hours ago [-]
I was interested for a few seconds, until I saw that it's a SaaS.

Sorry, but that's a no-go at this point.

adeelraza 7 hours ago [-]
Fair :) We do have open-source pieces (Unlayer Elements, React Email Editor, AI Skills), but the hosted builder itself is commercial.
hokage-at-leaf 7 hours ago [-]
Just went through open-source pieces. Looking good.
cyberax 6 hours ago [-]
Just provide a downloadable version. Your server side should be just a glorified templating engine and a DB from consumers' point of view.

Charge for the local version, of course.

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